H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccine, Possible Side Effects and the Potential Dangers of Squalene

Teresa Allen
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Posted by Teresa AllenSeptember 30, 2009 1:33 AM

UPDATE: November 13, 2009

The NVIC has just posted a Vaccine Ingredients Calculator for the H1N1 vaccine and the seasonal flu vaccine. You put in your weight, age etc. and the vaccine and click 'calculate'. It will tell you how much mercury the EPA states is acceptable for you.

Click here to go to the VIC.www.vaccine-tlc.org/calc.html

I put my info in and it said that based on the EPA standards of mercury that I can handle would be 8 micrograms. The H1N1 vaccine has 25 micrograms.

UPDATE: November 10, 2009

Thank you, Anais, for sharing this.

A brave and highly educated spanish nun,doctor and theologian, living in a monastery, but very much involved in the matters of the world, explains the H1N1 flu. This is the clearest and most sensible information I have been able to find. Hope it helps everybody to make an informed and free decision.
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UPDATE: November 3, 2009

Please go and listen to this interview! Very informative! Very good interview with Dr. Russell Blaylock: (Dr. Blaylock is a board certified neurosurgeon, author and lecturer. For the past 25 years he has practiced neurosurgery in addition to having a nutritional practice. He recently retired from both practices to devote full time to nutritional studies and research.) http://articles. mercola.com/ sites/articles/ archive/2009/ 11/03/What- We-Have-Learned- About-the- Great-Swine- Flu-Pandemic. aspx Just a couple of things from the interview:

UPDATE: October 27, 2009

The shocking truth about why Obama announced a National Public Health Emergency in the US this weekend.

October 21, 2009
ALERT: Special Swine Flu Update

*UPDATE: 10/14/2009* -

(Taken from Peninsula - Palo Alto Daily News )

"...the current stock of U.S. swine flu vaccines does not contain adjuvants, according to Anne Schuchat, MD, in an informational video produced by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

Schuchat does acknowledge that there is an emergency provision to use them — should the pandemic accelerate."

*UPDATE: 10/5/2009* - According to the CDC, neither the 2009 H1N1 vaccine nor the 2009 seasonal flu vaccine used in the United States contains squalene.

A Glimpse into the Scary World of Vaccine Adjuvants

The U.S. government has contracts with several drug companies to develop and produce swine flu vaccines. At least two of those companies, Novartis and GlaxoSmithKline, are using an adjuvant, Squalene, in their H1N1 vaccines.

Meryl Nass, M.D., who is an authority on the anthrax vaccine, states

“A novel feature of the two H1N1 vaccines being developed by companies Novartis and GlaxoSmithKline is the addition of squalene-containing adjuvants to boost immunogenicity and dramatically reduce the amount of viral antigen needed. This translates to much faster production of desired vaccine quantities.”

There is a difference between 'good' and 'bad' squalene. The difference is the way it enters the body. Injecting squalene is an abnormal route of entry. Injecting squalene into the body causes your immune system to attack ALL of the squalene in your body, not just the vaccine adjuvant.

According to the European website Without Concent :

What you don't know can hurt you.

WithoutConcent is about informed concent. We promote transparency in the pharmaceutical industry and the governments that regulate it...because you can't make good choices with bad information - or no information at all.

Clinical trials with "fast-track" swine flu vaccines that contain and adjuvant - substance that turbocharge the immune system's response to the vaccine - are underway on four continents. The adjuvant is an oil called squalene, which causes incurable autoimmune disease in animals. Autoimmune diseases occur when the immune system attacks the body instead of defending it.

Over the past 35 years, scientists in laboratories like UCLA Medical Center and the Karolinska Institute, which awards the Nobel Prizes in Medicine and Physiology have published papers showing how squalene injected into rodents will cripple them. They used squalene to induce diseases like rheumatoid arthritis in animals (the animal version is called "adjuvant arthritis") in order to search for a cure in humans.

This website also states:

The European Medicines Agency report on GlaxoSmithKline's new swine flu vaccine called "Pandemrix" says on pg. 17 that it contains 10.69 milligrams of squalene.

An appendix to the report says on pg. 29 that subjects injected with the vaccine suffered "Headache, Tiredness, Pain, redness, swelling or a hard lump at the injection site; Fever, Aching muscles and joint pain." It says these complaints were "very common" - occurring with more than 1 in 10 doses of Pandemrix.

In 1 out of 1,000 doses, subjects reported "Allergic reactions leading to a dangerous decrease of blood pressure, which, if untreated, may lead to collapse, coma and death; Fits, Severe stabbing or throbbing pain along one or more nerves and Low blood platelet count which can result in bleeding or bruising." In 1 in 10,000 doses, volunteers reported "Temporary inflammation of the brain and nerves causing pain, weakness and paralysis that may spread across the body; and Narrowing or blockage of blood vessels with kidney problems."

We're not going to tell you what to do about this - except to get informed. Your health could depend on it.

According to Jeffry John Aufderheide of justgetthere.us

"As to my knowledge, this information is the first of its kind validating the ingredients and the intent to use them on the population. Buyer beware of this vaccine as we are likely to see an onslaught of damaged men, women, and children if there are forced vaccines. The ‘new’ experimental vaccine is certainly unlike any other that we, as Americans, have been exposed to in the past."

On Fox News, a Doctor recently said that the H1N1 Swine Flu virus is losing its virulence and the vaccine has levels of Squalene, even going so far as to say you would rather get Swine Flu than seasonal flu.



More video from the National Vaccine Information Center



I, for one, will not be getting the H1N1 vaccine. However, no matter what you decide to do, please be sure to educate before you vaccinate.

I have removed the 'side effects' listed in the vaccine insert. Please do your own research into this.

..."Vaccine Safety Testing Only Done for ONE Week Now we are being told that this new fast tracked, poorly tested vaccine is very safe and effective. The results of the testing on this vaccine were reported in the New England Journal of Medicine.39 It is instructive to learn that the tests for safety and to assess complications lasted only 7 days after the vaccine, an incredibly short period of follow-up. Gullian Barre paralysis can occur even months after a vaccine as can seizures, behavioral problems and neurodevelopmental disorders in children. It is interesting to note that the authors of the safety study for our swine flu vaccine were all employees of the maker of the vaccine CSL Biotherapeutics and eight held equity interest in the company.39 This admission is part of the disclosure policy of the New England Journal of Medicine. It is always important to keep in mind when you hear about this vaccine being safe and produced just like the seasonal flu vaccine -- What else do they not know about this vaccine that they will discover months, years or even decades later. Once injected with the vaccine and you develop a complication there will be little that can be done to treat the life-long degenerative disorder it produces. You will just be a sad story on 60 minutes."

For the amount of mercury given in the vaccines to be considered safe, I would have to weigh a minimum of 551 pounds (250 kilograms).

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Kristin Loiacono
Posted by Kristin Loiacono
October 06, 2009 3:43 PM

When I saw your post, I was alarmed. I looked around online for info on squalene and found the following information on the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) website. In a FAQ section about the H1N1 vaccine posted Oct. 2, 2009, it reads:

"Does the 2009 H1N1 flu shot have an adjuvant or squalene in it?
Adjuvants are agents that are sometimes added to a vaccine to make it more effective. There are no adjuvants (such as squalene) in either the 2009 H1N1 or seasonal flu shot used in the United States."
Here is the link:
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Be well.

Teresa AllenInjuryBoard Contributor
Posted by Teresa Allen
October 06, 2009 10:07 PM

As far as I know, The U.S. government has contracts with several drug companies to develop and produce swine flu vaccines. At least two of those companies, Novartis and GlaxoSmithKline, are using an adjuvant, Squalene, in their H1N1 vaccines.

I am still researching this and will post an update once I find out if the US vaccines will, in fact, have squalene in them.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Wayne ParsonsInjuryBoard Attorney Member
Posted by Wayne Parsons
October 07, 2009 2:35 PM

Teresa: I am concerned that you are still resaerching an issue after you have published an article that will cause people to not get flu shots and possibly die. They will tell their friends and families? What is your background? Are you inmedicine? Law? We have enough problems in Amrerica with the FOX News folks saying whatever they want without regard to the facts. I say pull the article and explain what you don't know to readers. Injury Board is about credibility and being 100% right on the facts.

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 07, 2009 2:36 PM

The CDC fails to mention that RIGHT NOW we don't use the H1N1 containing Aduvants in the US. But in Canada, the story is a little different. The US did purchase vaccinations from Novartis, which DO contain adjuvants. So please consider that the CDC isn't lying if they posted that piece *prior to* purchasing these vaccines. But now that we *have* purchased the vaccines containing adjuvants, watch and see just how long that piece will stay online.

Please be well and don't be naive. The CDC is infested with corruption. Get the facts, read the package inserts. They come straight from the manufacturer and the law says they must be factual, unlike the CDC's website which is nothing more than one big advertisement for the pharmaceutical industry.

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 07, 2009 2:42 PM

Wayne, I hope you will at least read the package inserts. They don't lie, unlike politicians and other government employees who have financial ties to pharmaceutical money.

Our problem in this country is that we are becoming more and more unhealthy. No healthy person dies from swine flu! They may die from the TREATMENT, but if they are healthy, this flu is NOT DEADLY. It is MILD! We keep trusting drugs to do a job that our body was designed to do on it's own. With each drug we inject or ingest, we make ourselves just a little more unhealthy. Taking fever reducers and vaccines do weaken the immune system. Over time, doing so will make the healthiest of children unhealthy.

Teresa AllenInjuryBoard Contributor
Posted by Teresa Allen
October 07, 2009 2:44 PM

No, I am not in medicine, but I have researched quite extensively on this.

The adjuvants and ingredients in the H1N1 vaccine are dangerous to the human body.

I am just trying to get the word out there to be educated and well informed before you agree to allow someone to inject you with an unsafe and untested vaccine.

Do some research into the 1976 Swine Flu 'pandemic' and the vaccine they used. ONE person died from the swine flu, yet thousands were injured or died from the vaccine.

This H1N1 vaccine is dangerous. And the government has made it law that you will not be able to sue the manufacturer IF you develop side effects, are injured or even death occurs from being vaccinated.

Just Educate Before You Vaccinate.

The FDA and the CDC both also say that Gardasil is safe and that no side effects are linked to the vaccines...that is also a lie. There are hundreds of thousands of young girls falling ill and dying because of those vaccines.

Please remember, this is all about Big Pharm and money. Billions of dollars are at stake here.

Just do your research...find out the ingredients and how this vaccine has been made...that's all I'm trying to say.

I posted this article because I DON'T want to see many die from being vaccinated.

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 07, 2009 3:08 PM

The vaccines containing adjuvants are not being used in the US at this moment, but when supply becomes low, the dangerous vaccines with adjuvants *will be* used in this country.

What everyone should know is that squalene has never been approved for use. Of course, thimerosal was never approved either but that doesn't stop the FDA from approving vaccines tainted with it.

Educate yourself on the corruption AND on the vaccine facts. Mostly, read the package inserts.

Then ask yourself if you have a bigger chance of dying in your own bathtub - or if your chances of dying from the flu are greater.

Ann Jackson
Posted by Ann Jackson
October 09, 2009 9:32 PM

Simple Comment...
I was not born with a syringe attached to my body...too many vaccines and brain damage occurs,
as well as autoimmune diseases....
I guess it's one way of killing people off earlier, and getting addicted to the stupid drugs... nutrition, supplements, and detoxification are the way to avoid problems...
Gulf syndrome totally related to the excessive vaccines....pancreatic cancer, diabetes also has relationship to vaccines...altheimers, related to flu vaccines...parkinsons related to flu vaccines...I could go on forever....
Want healthy children??? Avoid the pediatrition and see a naturepath and homeopathic doctor...it has been my family's road to recovering health....

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October 10, 2009 1:09 PM

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On October 1 2009, a former federal health minister dismisses as "crackpots and conspiracy theorists" those who would actively discourage Australians from having their swine flu vaccine'. October 2nd, the San Fransisco Chronicle publishes that 'Everybody seems to be saying TRUST THE GOVERNMENT but it's hard to trust the H1N1 vaccination campaign' and on October 4rd, the Washington Post wonders 'When the swine flu vaccine finally arrives this week, will Americans line up to get it?' and CBS News writes about health care workers protesting the flu vaccine mandate. October 6th Foodconsumer publishes 'Do NOT Let Your Child Get Flu Vaccine -- 9 Reasons Why' and writes that 'modern medicine has no explanation for autism, despite its continued rise in prevalence. Yet autism is not reported among Amish children who go unvaccinated'. October 7th Healthnews writes that 72 percent are concerned about potential vaccine side effects and the Examiner writes that' theorists believe that government may force people to take the vaccine'. October 8th Times&Transscript publishes that 'a mercury-based preservative called thimerosal would be included as one of the substances in the H1N1 vaccine', Medill Reports writes that Dr. Mayer Eisenstein is advising his patients to say no and is convinced that vaccines cause autism and the Los Angeles Times Blog publishes that media commentators Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh have apparently fallen prey to the loony websites of the anti-vaccine folks and that Beck would do "the exact opposite" of what the government recommended and attend a swine flu party. October 9th, The Christian Science Monitor publishes that 'the vaccine is opposed, moreover, by naturopaths and even a well-known epidemiologist' and that Glenn Beck from Fox News has devoted hours to ask 'why the World Health Organization, "Big Pharma," and the government are hyping a pandemic'?

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Kristy
Posted by Kristy
October 13, 2009 10:12 AM

My son is two. He is very healthy and does not go to daycare. I am wondering even if he gets vaccine will he be protected from getting H1N1??

Barbara Tubridy LombardiInjuryBoard Contributor
Posted by Barbara Tubridy Lombardi
October 13, 2009 11:34 AM

Kristy,This is a decision you, the child's father, and your pediatrician need to make. The "facts" reported on Ms. Allen's blog are from an anti-vaccine group's website. Please get the real facts based on medical research when making this decision. As parents, we need to decide what is best for our families based on facts, not fear.

Teresa AllenInjuryBoard Contributor
Posted by Teresa Allen
October 13, 2009 11:40 AM

Please look at the ingredients and the side effects of such ingredients and decide for yourself.

All I am saying is Educate Before You Vaccinate.

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Barbara Tubridy LombardiInjuryBoard Contributor
Posted by Barbara Tubridy Lombardi
October 13, 2009 1:14 PM

Teresa, Your update of October 5 contradicts your original post. You should re-state your version of the facts.

Teresa AllenInjuryBoard Contributor
Posted by Teresa Allen
October 13, 2009 2:14 PM

In my post, I state that "At least two of those companies, Novartis and GlaxoSmithKline, are using an adjuvant, Squalene, in their H1N1 vaccines."

I did not state that the H1N1 vaccine that is being used in the United States has Squalene at this time.

If you do your own research, you will find that what I stated is fact.

I do not understand what you are wanting me to 're-state'?

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 13, 2009 9:42 PM

Teresa, I believe that very often people are of a particular thought process and you can tell them to read the facts all day long but they won't. If they did, they would likely want others to know the truth too. But as usual, the world is full of those who don't read but instead listen to the media hype (that is what I consider scare mongering at its worst). Also in this country we are so brainwashed to believe anyone with a white coat. If we only knew about the brainwashing that goes on in medical school. Readers may want to look into just who writes, publishes and approves textbooks used in medical schools these days and consider the many conflicts of interests there. It's almost as bad as the fact that a person can develop a vaccine and then sit on the very board that decides whether or not the vaccine is put to widespread use. I would call that a conflict of interest of the worst kind, most people would. But then most people don't make tons of money off of pharmaceuticals.

The flu shot is dangerous. Tamiflu is very dangerous, it reeks havoc on ones immune system. Getting this strain of the flu will offer the patient lifelong immunity...another little fact that you won't hear on CNN or MSNBC. Does anyone ever even wonder why the truth isn't being told???

Start reading and you'll begin to wonder about the truths, half truths and word-twisting - its not rocket science!

Teresa AllenInjuryBoard Contributor
Posted by Teresa Allen
October 14, 2009 10:07 AM

Dana,
Thank you for your comment. What you say is so true!

If people would just do a little research on their own, they would see the truth.

Since my daughters' injuries from Gardasil, something that I was told by her doctor would be the best thing I could do for my daughter, and that there were no side effects other than soreness at the injection site, I now research EVERYTHING. And what I find is so shocking.

If I had only researched into Gardasil beforehand, my daughter would still be the healthy, active and happy child that she was the day before we got the vaccine.

I've learned SO much since then. And I am trying to get the word out to just Educate Before You Vaccinate. You owe it to yourself and your family.

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 14, 2009 5:39 PM

Yep, the US will probably use the vaccines with the very dangerous adjuvants...

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I just hope its not the ignorant and lazy (and bought) media who will be deciding if we have an "emergency" or not...

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 14, 2009 5:50 PM

Teresa, I'm so sorry to hear that your daughter was one of the many vaccine injured. I guess you see now how the media fails to mention these adverse reactions. Reading the package inserts will make a big difference in anyone's decision. It's boring reading, but it will shock you - especially if you are standing in front of your doctor and realize that he or she has not bothered to read it. No, instead they tell you what the salesman from the pharmaceutical company told them. Shouldn't it be required reading? I must the among the few who think so.

I just heard a pregnant lady brag about getting her flu shot. It made me sick! I should have asked if she realized that it has not been tested in pregnant women, nor do they even have a tiny little clue as to how dangerous it might be to the baby. This horrid crap does pass the BBB and into the baby's system. My OBGYN won't give the shot unless the patient demands it --- and here we have plenty of doctors pushing it, pregnant or not. Why are some doctors so ignorant about this shot and some are taking precautions? Oh well, if they wear a white coat then they know it all, whether they read the literature or not. Modern medicine in this country is pathetic!

Teresa AllenInjuryBoard Contributor
Posted by Teresa Allen
October 14, 2009 6:36 PM

Dana, this is what I don't understand when it comes to giving pregnant women these flu shots or any vaccine for that matter...

They don't want a pregnant woman to take ANY type of medication such as pain medication. They give them a list of 'acceptable' meds that they can take while pregnant. They say anything above Tylenol could harm the fetus. But yet they are pushing the flu vaccine and the H1N1 vaccine on pregnant women.

Why aren't they looking at the dangerous toxins IN these vaccines and what it could do to the growing fetus?

I was at the hospital with my pregnant daughter yesterday. She was having severe cramping. The nurse started asking my daughter if she had the flu vaccine and then asked if she was going to get the H1N1 vaccine. My daughter said NO. I had to speak up and ask her the very same question that I just typed here. She just sat there dumbfounded.

The ingredients in the H1N1 vaccine are dangerous, toxic to the human body not to mention that it's been fast tracked through the FDA without extensive testing.

After our conversation about this subject, the nurse stated "well we don't even have the H1N1 vaccine here but we are told to ask the patients".

It just made my stomach turn.

Everyone needs to Educate yourself before you vaccinate! Get the facts...how else can you make an informed decision without all of the facts?

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 14, 2009 9:22 PM

"She just sat there dumbfounded."

I have had that happen a few times. It's almost as if they honestly never even thought about it. They blindly follow protocol without ever thinking outside the box. And the patient is not about to think for themselves or take their own health into their own hands.

We trust anyone in a white coat but we don't consider who trained those MD's or where their textbooks came from...

I don't dislike doctors, I just dislike modern medicine. Sadly, its not all we've been brainwashed to believe it is. We all need to do as much research as possible. We have the tools so we are no longer dependent on those in white coats :)

Anyone pregnant should seriously research the use of Pitocin, Misoprostol and Cytotec too. Just one intervention leads to another intervention which leads to more interventions which eventually can lead to c-section. If a c-section is not what you want then you will want to learn about all the many interventions used today. It's no wonder we have such a poor infant mortality rate in this country!

Irv Grunes
Posted by Irv Grunes
October 17, 2009 3:01 PM

If one were to read the inserts on possible side effects of Aspirin no one would take it.

All of the side effects are noted to cover the worst case.

I will study the literature but I don't like fear mongoring.

Teresa AllenInjuryBoard Contributor
Posted by Teresa Allen
October 17, 2009 7:35 PM

This is not a case of fear mongering.

These are facts. Everyone needs to investigate before they vaccinate.

The ingredients in these vaccines are proven dangerous.

JILL PAUL RN
Posted by JILL PAUL RN
October 17, 2009 9:47 PM

Teresa, I admit, I have not read all of your reader's comments but have to add my own. Today, I was confronted with transporting a patient from CCU with the potential diagnosis of Swine Flu. To give you some background, any patient transported out of our ICU/CCU in our hospital must be transported with an RN on a monitor and a transport aide to assist the movement of that patient. The diagnosis of Swine Flu will not be confirmed for 2 weeks for this patient. My team, donned paper gowns, a H1N1 mask and gloves. We then proceeded to attach a portable monitor and prepared to take him to the Cat Scan on the first floor - we were on the second floor. Before leaving the patients' room, we had to disrobe ourselves of the paper gowns, the masks and gloves in the medical waste and proceed down the hall and elevator without this protection. Our policy states that you can not wear isolation protection gear in the hallways. My point is, we were exposed to his virus/swine flu just transporting him and not wearing the protective gear. He also was on a ventilator and not wearing a protective mask. This is reality in a hospital. How do you think the germs spread? This outrageous.

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 17, 2009 10:34 PM

I've been around long enough to know that when they resort to name-calling its because they have nothing else. ;)

And maybe we shouldn't take Aspirin for every little ache & pain. As a fever reducer, it has caused death in young children, that is why pediatricians tell us to use Tylenol and Motrin instead.

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 17, 2009 10:43 PM

"Our policy states that you can not wear isolation protection gear in the hallways. My point is, we were exposed to his virus/swine flu just transporting him and not wearing the protective gear. He also was on a ventilator and not wearing a protective mask. This is reality in a hospital."

Why do they have such rules about no protection gear in the hallways? (I'm curious.)

Does everyone working in the hospital who is exposed to flu get the particular strain of flu their patient is diagnosed with? I'm just curious if anyone working in the industry may build natural immunity without producing symptoms.

Chris
Posted by Chris
October 18, 2009 12:02 AM

I'm in Vancouver, Canada and am concerned about getting the H1N1 vaccine. At this point, I am not planning to get it, but there is pressure. A young woman, 26, recently died in the area, previously healthy and with no known "underlying contributing factors". And at least one person at my work has apparently just come down with the "swine flu".
Around 12 years ago, I received the series of 3 vaccines for Hepatitis B at work and not long after developed alopecia areata, which is an autoimmune disorder.
This disorder seems to have abated after several years. But, I am concerned that I seemingly had such a reaction to a vaccine, and am very concerned another autoimmune reaction might occur if vaccinated again. (I have chosen not to be vaccinated for anything else since then).

Teresa AllenInjuryBoard Contributor
Posted by Teresa Allen
October 18, 2009 11:45 AM

I understand how the germ spreads. It spreads just like the regular seasonal flu.

This article is about the vaccine and the dangers of the adjuvants.

Do some research into Vitamin D and ProBiotics.

Teresa AllenInjuryBoard Contributor
Posted by Teresa Allen
October 18, 2009 11:53 AM

Chris, please do some research into the adjuvants and what they do once injected into the body.

And to comment on the aspirin comment, yes, there are dangers associated with any medication.

But the difference here is that vaccines are injected into the body, bypassing all of the body's natural defenses.

Do your own research. That's all I'm trying to get across.

The H1N1 vaccine has been fast tracked and rushed through the FDA. No long-term studies of the side effects from these adjuvants. The makers have been given immunity from any lawsuits that would arrise from injuries or death.

Kent
Posted by Kent
October 19, 2009 3:32 PM

Look at these two You Tubes please!

Nick CarrollInjuryBoard Staff
Posted by Nick Carroll
October 19, 2009 5:52 PM

Fact Check just came out with a detailed report about some of the misinformation being spread about the vaccine.

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Teresa AllenInjuryBoard Contributor
Posted by Teresa Allen
October 19, 2009 6:48 PM

The ingredients in the vaccine are dangerous.

There have been many scientific studies on the adjuvants used and it is fact that the ingredients DO cause harm.

Do your own research into the chemicals in the vaccine and decide for yourself.

That is all I am saying. I would rather suffer for a few days with the flu than to be subjected to a lifelong sickness or autoimmune disease from the vaccine. But that is my own choice. Do your own research and get all of the facts, then decide for yourself.

Teresa AllenInjuryBoard Contributor
Posted by Teresa Allen
October 19, 2009 7:12 PM

Notice in the package insert it states for use in persons ages 18 years of age and older..and also states Safety and effectiveness of Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine have not been established in pregnant women, nursing mothers or in persons less than 18 years of age. (8.1, 8.3, 8.4)

They are strongly suggesting that children ages 6 months and older get this vaccine along with pushing it on pregnant women.

Please read the H1N1 package insert here:

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Taken from the package insert:

INDICATIONS AND USAGE

• Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine is an inactivated influenza virus vaccine indicated for active immunization of persons ages 18 years of age and older against influenza disease caused by pandemic (H1N1) 2009 virus. (1)

USE IN SPECIFIC POPULATIONS

Information is based on studies conducted with seasonal trivalent Influenza Virus Vaccine manufactured by CSL (AFLURIA).

Safety and effectiveness of Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine have not been established in pregnant women, nursing mothers or in persons less than 18 years of age. (8.1, 8.3, 8.4)

8.1 Pregnancy
Pregnancy Category C: Animal reproduction studies have not been conducted with Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine or AFLURIA. It is also not known whether these vaccines can cause fetal harm when administered to a pregnant woman or can affect reproduction capacity. Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine should be given to a pregnant woman only if clearly needed.

8.4 Pediatric Use
Neither Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine nor AFLURIA has been evaluated in children. Safety and effectiveness in the pediatric population have not been established.

Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine is formulated to contain 15 mcg HA per 0.5 mL dose of influenza A/California/7/2009 (H1N1)v-like virus.
The single-dose formulation is preservative-free; thimerosal, a mercury derivative, is not used in the manufacturing process for this formulation. The multi-dose formulation contains thimerosal, added as a preservative; each 0.5 mL dose contains 24.5 mcg of mercury.

(1 mcg *microgram* is considered toxic to the human body. Each dose has 24.5 mcg of mercury)

A single 0.5 mL dose of Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine contains sodium chloride (4.1 mg), monobasic sodium phosphate (80 mcg), dibasic sodium phosphate (300 mcg), monobasic potassium phosphate (20 mcg), potassium chloride (20 mcg), and calcium chloride (1.5 mcg). From the manufacturing process, each dose may also contain residual amounts of sodium taurodeoxycholate (= 10 ppm), ovalbumin (= 1 mcg), neomycin sulfate (= 0.2 picograms [pg]), polymyxin B (= 0.03 pg), and beta-propiolactone (< 25 nanograms).

13 NONCLINICAL TOXICOLOGY
13.1 Carcinogenesis, Mutagenesis, Impairment of Fertility
Neither Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine nor AFLURIA has been evaluated for carcinogenic or mutagenic potential or for impairment of fertility.

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October 19, 2009 7:16 PM

I read a book named Vaccine A by Gary Matsumoto and it was about the compulsory vaccines given to many soldiers during the Gulf War. One of the ingredients was this squalene that is being discussed on here. In this book, soldiers and their families give first hand accounts of the effects of squalene. Many of them developed Gulf War Syndrome with severe rashes that turned into a skin eating disorder and non healing lesions of the skin. One family posted the video of their son, Scott Siefken, as he dies from this skin eating disorder. It can be viewed on the desert-storm dot com site. The fact that now, so many years later, I hear and read so much about this chemical and the possibility that is being used in a current vaccine for the general public is nothing short of HORRIFYING.

Kelly
Posted by Kelly
October 20, 2009 9:34 PM

I had my one and only flu shot 9 years ago, when there was a panic and shortage of vaccines available. Thinking I was doing a good thing as a new mom, I wanted to avoid getting the flu and passing it on to my baby.

The morning after, I woke with severe pain in my hands, knees, and feet. For months, I could not move without pain. I couldn't pick up my purse, hold my son's bottle, or type. My doctor said it was a "coincidence" and tested me for auto-immune disorders/arthritis, which always came back negative. I am still not 100% and have to be careful of overusing my hands, kneeling or lunging, and walking too long. I am convinced my body reacted to the squalene in that vaccination. (And not to mention...the year I got the flu shot was the only year I've ever had the flu!)

My son is now 10 years old and has never had a flu shot. The schools are pushing the H1N1 vaccine and I am petrified. Am I a bad mother if I choose to avoid vaccination and he gets horribly sick? Or am I a bad mother if I choose vaccination and he ends up in pain like me?

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 20, 2009 10:50 PM

Kelly, I wouldn't dare try to tell you what you should or should not do regarding vaccines, and I'm not a doctor. I have, however, studied vaccines extensively and I personally believe that the children who are dying from the swine flu were very unhealthy to begin with. Babies are getting 38 vaccines before the age of 18 months! With each and every vaccine, the immune system is damaged just a little more and a little more. So much so that when a vaccinated child gets sick, his immune system is not able to fight the disease. My first is partially vaccinated but my second child will never be. She is healthy and I have no doubt she is strong enough to fight this mild flu. I think my son is too, since he only got a few of the vaccines and we started after his immune system and myelin sheath was mature (after 2 years of age).

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 20, 2009 10:56 PM

Fact check seriously needs to check their facts and perhaps learn how to read Scientific articles as well. I'm wondering if they even know what a package insert is...

Teresa AllenInjuryBoard Contributor
Posted by Teresa Allen
October 20, 2009 11:58 PM

Dana, I agree. I have also researched vaccines extensively but am also not a doctor.

Everyone has to do their own research into the ingredients in each vaccine and decide for themselves what is right for their children. I do, however, disagree with forced vaccines and taking the 'choice' away from the parents. It should be the parents' right to decide what is injected into their own children.

I do believe that babies and very young childrens' immune systems are fragile and are developing and to inject adjuvants into their small bodies at such early ages before their immune systems are fully developed is dangerous. Especially giving newborns Hep B within hours of birth and then the Vitamin K...too much research showing the damage that both can do to their systems.

But, again, I am not a doctor. Just a mother that has researched and learned way more than I ever wanted to know since my own daughter has been injured from the Gardasil vaccine. It forced me to dig and research, night and day. What I learned was things I wish I had known years ago.

Teresa AllenInjuryBoard Contributor
Posted by Teresa Allen
October 21, 2009 3:11 AM

I just received an Alert email from Dr. Mercola.

Here is the email and the link:

October 21, 2009
ALERT: Special Swine Flu Update Urgent and vital information you need to know about the massive amount of disinformation that the media has recently escalated as best demonstrated by 60 Minutes segment on Swine Flu which aired this past Sunday. Normally our editorial process has us test, research and review articles over a three week period before it finally reaches the newsletter. However, this article is an exception which is why it is coming out as a special alert.

Read my special report on this vital topic so you can avoid deception and manipulation by the conventional media. The last time we sent out a special report like this over one million people viewed the page and it was the sixth most viewed page on the Internet that day.

So our apologies if our servers are not giving you the page as quickly as you would like. Just be patient and keep trying.

ALERT: Special Swine Flu Update
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Read more: More ...

JChretien
Posted by JChretien
October 21, 2009 10:09 PM

The report you linked to is for H5N1, not H1N1, and it bothers me that it is not hosted on the actual EMEA site. The EMEA webpage, meanwhile, clearly recommends vaccination: More ...

Kelly
Posted by Kelly
October 21, 2009 10:33 PM

Thank you Dana. I am one of those mothers who blindly followed the vaccination routine when my son was born, but wised up after my own bad experience with the flu shot.

I talked with my son's pediatrician today and his office is not even taking patients who think they may have the virus. They are simply calling in a prescription of Tamiflu. I've heard this same story from many parents and doctors. So theoretically, few doctors are even checking to see if an illness is swine flu, seasonal flu, or just a really bad cold. That's how "concerned" they are about this virus. And yes...the children who have died were either in poor health already or had inadequate or no health care.

I also called my county Board of Health Department and no one could or would tell me what is in the vaccines OR which manufacturers have supplied our vaccines. Why the secret if it is safe and adjuvant free?

We are NOT getting the vaccines. Thank you for letting me vent!

R.Smitty
Posted by R.Smitty
October 22, 2009 7:48 PM

What a relief to find this site and read my fears from others. I asked my 2 children what they thought about the swine flu vaccine, my 12 year old stated he didn't want it because it hasn't been tested enough to know any side effects...bright kid. I left the decision up to my kids and they flat out said No vaccine. My husband, my kids, and myself have Never had a flu vaccine of any kind.. and knock on wood we've never had the flu. I do research alot now after getting an antibiotic w/o research and I ended up in the ER looking at surgery. So, I thank all of you for putting yall's experiences out there so others like myself can read.

eleven
Posted by eleven
October 23, 2009 8:45 AM

Here are some interesting facts about the lack of scientific studies done on the effectiveness of the seasonal flu vaccine. Read the whole article, especially the last page which talks about how doctors in the 80's and 90's refused to allow double-blind studies to test their treatment for advanced breast cancer...and once they finally did do the tests they found out that treatment was actually killing patients. The same arguments are being used to NOT test the flu vaccine.

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Dana
Posted by Dana
October 23, 2009 1:52 PM

Kelly, Tamiflu will take a toll on the immune system as well. If my children get the flu (of any kind) I will allow their bodies to do what they are designed to do - heal. Drugs do not heal, with the exception of some antibiotics, but then only if they are used for the right type of sickness, flu is not one of them. The only advantage of Tamiflu is to get over the flu faster so you can get back to work/school. The toll it takes on the immune system is not worth it (it's only a few days). I just wanted to let you know, just in case you or someone in your family does get the flu. Here are just a few studies regarding Tamiflu and children:

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frightening thoughts about our water supply -

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The best thing we Moms can do for our children is to feed them unprocessed whole foods and try to get at least 10 minutes of sunshine every day, whenever possible. Tamiflu is bad news, don't trust it, trust the designer of your body instead. :)

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 24, 2009 8:31 PM

Teresa - I love love love Dr. Mercola so don't get me wrong when I say this: If you bring up his name, Dr. Blaylock, or any of the doctors who don't believe in pharmaceuticals, but instead believe in diet - you will often be chastised. Especially if one of the pharma-mafia's goons are reading your posts. It took me a while to figure out who has been blacklisted and who has not YET been blacklisted. As a general rule though, any researcher, doctor, or scientist that threaten big-pharma has been blacklisted, or soon will be. Whether they are an actual threat or not, is laughable, but the pharma-goons don't see it that way. :)

Teresa AllenInjuryBoard Contributor
Posted by Teresa Allen
October 24, 2009 8:35 PM

Dana, it's a sad world we live in huh?!

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 24, 2009 10:56 PM

"Dana, it's a sad world we live in huh?!"

Ain't it though! Greed is truly evil in today's world.

If I haven't already, I want to invite you to a board where some really lively debate takes place. Some of the women are so incredibly knowledgeable regarding the truth about vaccines.

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I have learned soooooooo much from being a member there and the discussion always includes peer reviewed articles because most of us know better than to post articles by Dr. Mercola, lol.

Dennis Knicely
Posted by Dennis Knicely
October 25, 2009 3:16 AM

For years I have been following advancement of the H5N1 Avian Flu strains... More ...

Last spring this latest H1N1 type A Swine influenza led to follow-up research... More ...

The latest update is research regarding advancement of vaccine programs, building natural immunity, etc... More ...

So far the "Mother Site" More ... is totally non-commercial, with countless links to pertinent health and healing articles. When budget and time permits site will keep improving.

Dennis Knicely Editor / Publisher

I.S.
Posted by I.S.
October 25, 2009 5:49 PM

Firstly, I'm a researcher working for a major multinational manufacturer of vitamins and nutritional products so it would be in my interest to support the "no drugs" line. Secondly, I don't normally post comments but the ill informed nonsense here has enraged my intallectual indignation enough that I felt compelled to reply.

Let's get one thing straight here - squalene adjuvants might be a novel inclusion in vaccines used in the United States but they are commonly used in British and European vaccines and are accepted as safe by the WHO.

The adjuvant in question has been used for a number of years in vaccines against both avian and seasonal flu with no serious side effects. Incidentally, the H1N1 vaccine is essentially identical to the seasonal flu vaccine which is given to billions of people worldwide without any serious health effects.

"Proven dangerous"? Given the weight of clinical evidence (as opposed to the worthless anecdotes related here) my considered scientific opinion is that they are as safe as any other active compound. The vast majority of the world's scientific and medical communities agrees.

It is, of course, a matter of personal choice whether to make use of these vaccines and I agree that the dangers of H1N1 are small but to be honest, if you worry about adjuvants, you might as well worry about fluoride in your drinking water - but hang on, you proabably do.

By all means educate yourselves - it might make you less likely to listen to scaremongering.

T.M.
Posted by T.M.
October 25, 2009 7:11 PM

There was a case just a couple of weeks ago that involved a fifteen year old that died of H1N1. This child ran track, and was very healthy. According to the media and his doctor, he died because he really had never been sick before, and had no build up of immunities. What do you think of that?

Jane AkreInjuryBoard Staff
Posted by Jane Akre
October 25, 2009 10:14 PM

Teresa-

My research shows that adjuvants are not being used currently in the U.S. formulations. Adjuvants were purchased by the HHS at more than $400 million, but are not being used unless they find there is not enough flu vaccine to go around.

I've checked with FDA, the source Dr. Mercola quoted as well as Novartis.

If you have any different fact-based information, please share it.

Teresa AllenInjuryBoard Contributor
Posted by Teresa Allen
October 26, 2009 12:09 AM

This is taken from my friend, Cynthia Janak (More ... )

Here is the full ingredient list for Pandemix. I do want to mention that it is propagated in eggs. Excipients: It contains 5 micrograms thiomersal, Suspension vial, Polysorbate 80, Octoxynol 10 , Thiomersal, Sodium chloride (NaCl), Disodium hydrogen phosphate (Na2HPO4), Potassium dihydrogen phosphate (KH2PO4), Potassium chloride (KCl), Magnesium chloride (MgCl2), Water for injections, Emulsion vial: Sodium chloride (NaCl) 8, Disodium hydrogen phosphate (Na2HPO4), Potassium dihydrogen phosphate (KH2PO4), Potassium chloride (KCl) and Water for injections.

“Public health experts acknowledge there will be people on the fence over receiving the H1N1 shot. But Perry Kendall, B.C.'s health officer, assured Canadians in a conference call this week that the government is looking out for their safety.” Now I want you to tell me how putting all these chemicals into your body is safe?

In regards to what Canada's chief public health officer, David Butler-Jones said and I quote. “Immunization is the only thing which will stop the pandemic and prevent however many people from needlessly becoming ill.” Many renowned scientists are finding that a proper pH balance in the body helps to prevent disease. I reference Dr. Otto Warburg, Dr. Brewer and many others that are finding this to be true. In essence, a better diet with pH balancing foods and vitamin supplementation is what is needed and not a vaccine.

“They stressed that the vaccine doesn't contain a live virus so you cannot contract influenza from it.” If Pandemrix by GSK is being used then it has a ‘split influenza virus, inactivated’. So, per se, the virus is whole but it is just deactivated with a detergent solution. If this process is not done correctly you could end up with an attenuated virus which is partially deactivated or you could say muted.

“There were claims that squalene, used in the anthrax vaccine, was to blame for Gulf War syndrome.” Here is some scientific reports about squalene. “One published report has suggested that some army veterans who received anthrax vaccines developed anti-squalene antibodies and that these antibodies caused disabilities.” More ... int/vaccine_ safety/topics/ adjuvants/ squalene/ en/index. html “These results suggest that the production of ASA (anti-squalene anti-bodies) in GWS patients is linked to the presence of squalene in certain lots of anthrax vaccine. 2002: Asa Pamela B; Wilson Russell B; Garry Robert F, Antibodies to squalene in recipients of anthrax vaccine. Experimental and molecular pathology 2002;73(1):19-27.” “Squalene is a cholesterol precursor, which stimulates the immune system nonspecifically. We demonstrate that one intradermal injection of this adjuvant lipid can induce joint-specific inflammation in arthritis-prone DA rats.” (American Journal of Pathology. 2000;156:2057- 2065.) © 2000 American Society for Investigative Pathology The Endogenous Adjuvant Squalene Can Induce a Chronic T-Cell-Mediated Arthritis in Rats

“Canada's vaccine uses an adjuvant, which consists of squalene (shark liver oil), DL-alpha-tocopherol (vitamin E) and polysorbate 80 (an emulsifier also used in ice cream).” Squalene was previously addressed. DL-alpha-tocopherol (vitamin E) “Rats treated with weekly oral doses of about 50 mg of a vitamin E concentrate were found to have fatty changes in the liver. In addition, intimal sclerosis of the aorta was seen, with the over-development of collagenous tissue at the base of the aortic valve and in the medial coat of the aorta (Marxs et al.,1947).” “Rats given high doses of alpha-tocopherol had elevated liver cholesterol levels and altered tissue fatty acids (Alfin-Slater et al., 1972).” “Vitamin E depressed body-weight gain at concentrations of 10,000 and 25,000 IU/kg diet, and increased relative heart and spleen weights were seen at 8 months and 16 months, respectively. (Yang & Desai, 1977).”

Polysorbate80 is another good one.
Here are some studies. “PubMed.Gov a service of the U.S. Library of Medicine and the National Institute of Health, a report shows that neonatal rats were injected with small doses of polysorbate 80 and the results were major effects on the reproductive organs of the rats, resulting in infertility.

More ... ” “PubMed studied Polysorbate 80 in an intravenous vitamin mix given to a pregnant woman who suffered anaphylactic shock where polysorbate 80 was identified as the causative agent, More ... dopt=Citation” “yet another study showed two patients who developed hypersensitive reactions to red blood cell growth hormones and subsequent skin testing indicated polysorbate 80 as the culprit. This finding might have implications in the recent increase in the incidence of pure red cell aplasia. More ...

Jane AkreInjuryBoard Staff
Posted by Jane Akre
October 26, 2009 10:59 AM

Teresa- Please answer my question about adjuvants. I do not see from your list of ingredients that adjuvant is in there.

Specifically, which ingredient are you pointing to as an adjuvant?

Thank you.

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 26, 2009 1:03 PM

"they are commonly used in British and European vaccines and are accepted as safe by the WHO."

And of those people at the WHO who deemed that this adjuvant is safe - how many of those have NO financial ties to pharmaceutical companies?

That is a grand conflict of interest that I'm not willing to simply dismiss. I'm not one to trust any person wearing a white coat, unlike some. So ask yourself why these people would tell you one thing and then the package insert tell you something entirely different?

"The adjuvant in question has been used for a number of years in vaccines against both avian and seasonal flu with no serious side effects."

Really? You might want to "research" the package inserts. The adverse reactions are very plainly listed. And if you need help figuring out how to search the VAERS database, let me know, I can help you with that.

"The vast majority of the world's scientific and medical communities agrees."

Really? Can you prove that they agree? Because anyone able to read plain English or whitewashed English does not read the same as you...copy and past the sentences and see how many definitive words you find, all I can find are a bunch of sentences with "maybe" and "might" - nothing proven, nothing concrete at all. And before you go to too much trouble, you may want to research a little further into who DESIGNED said studies, who CARRIED OUT said studies and who REPORTED on said studies. Again, how many of those people have no financial ties to the industry?

"worthless anecdotes"???

So you have never read a package insert then? Ever??? Obviously!

Yes, by all means, educate yourselves and ask why anyone would want to spread the truth about the harmful side effects that can happen. And while you're at it, pay attention to who wrote what you are reading...a ghost writer perhaps? Ask yourselves why those scientists need someone else to write for them. Then ask yourself what could possibly make a person lie? Ask yourself that question about the person who DOES have financial ties to the pharmaceutical industry an those who don't.

This researcher obviously makes his/her money from this industry - I don't.

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 26, 2009 1:57 PM

The fact that a fifteen yr old who died was healthy or not healthy, is subjective. You may think a kid who has had 38 vaccines before the age of two is healthy, I don't consider that child healthy. You may think that a child who is constantly dosed with ADHD drugs or Asthma drugs healthy, I do not. I am also curious about the treatment the child received. I know that often the death certificate may say that a self-limiting disease killed a child but the truth of the matter is that the child was killed by the treatment given in the ER or at home, or both. Now what are the exact circumstances in which you decided this child was "healthy"? What was he given for fever? How much fever reducer was he given? Did they bother to ask before dosing him again at the hospital? There are all sorts of questions that would actually determine how healthy this child was, underlying medical issues are often unknown at the time of death. So, you can't just assume its as simple as that. My entire family had H1N1 and we survived it! So obviously, this disease is not as deadly as the fear-mongerers need you to believe.

Angelg222
Posted by Angelg222
October 26, 2009 11:03 PM

I believe the only thing that is going to come from all this H1N1 flue/vaccines is that you now have millions of people out there getting vaccinations, some even double taking flu & H1N1 vaccines and in time, hundreds and thousands of people are going to start showing side effects that are going to be in such high numbers that it will be impossible to deny that it is from the vaccines. The number is going to be so high that of course the gov isn't going to let people sue the drug companies. But guess who will pay? All of us, even we the people who didn't believe in vaccinations .... because these people are going to end up on disability. I wish I was wrong, but I am not. Then and only then will we finally know how dangerous vaccines are.

Teresa AllenInjuryBoard Contributor
Posted by Teresa Allen
October 27, 2009 11:43 AM

Two very good links:

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Dana
Posted by Dana
October 27, 2009 1:02 PM

"The number is going to be so high that of course the gov isn't going to let people sue the drug companies."

Oh our government thought of all that long ago. They made it impossible for you to sue a drug co over vaccine damages. Now, if you have a claim, there's a special court set up JUST FOR THAT. It's pathetic and its unconstitutional. Our gov is not about good health, you can bet on that. We the people are not being protected, the bank accounts for certain groups ARE.

Jim Bramhill
Posted by Jim Bramhill
October 28, 2009 12:27 AM

Dick Cheney owns considerable stock in Glaxo-Smith-Kline,the producer of the H1N1 vaccine ...need I say more?

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 28, 2009 3:07 PM

I think it should be illegal for those in office, those working for the CDC, the WHO and the FDA to own stocks in pharmaceuticals! There are enough conflicts of interest going on, without all the financial conflicts adding to the problem!

SESmith
Posted by SESmith
October 28, 2009 11:42 PM

There have been a number of deaths in our 2-state area that have been attributed to H1N1, and some of those were people with no underlying health problems, including a mother who had just given birth, a child, and a man in his 30's.

I think it is ridiculous to keep repeating the SAME argument over and over in your blog, by pretty much the same 3 or 4 people, when there is evidence to the contrary that vaccines save lives. HELLO - Polio vaccine, smallpox vaccine - people died by the thousands from these diseases before vaccinations were available. Did this one rush to the market? Maybe. But flu shots are pretty standard, they deal with a different strain every year or so, so I think the scientists probably have a clue what they are doing.

Go ahead and skip your H1N1 shot - leaves more for the people who want them. It is a crime to leave your child susceptible to diseases that can be prevented. Yes, there are adverse reactions to medications for some people - but then again, some people are allergic to flowers or the sun or other naturally occurring things in our environment.

Stop trying to scare people, or come up with some more substantial data to back up your WARNING.

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 29, 2009 1:50 AM

"But flu shots are pretty standard, they deal with a different strain every year or so, so I think the scientists probably have a clue what they are doing."

Maybe because you have not read all the literature which proves vaccine failure. Both Primary Failure AND Secondary Failure. It's obvious that you have not read anything at all. If you had, you would know that yes, those "scientists" have been wrong on occasion!

They get it wrong ALL. THE. TIME.

You have a lot to learn. Why don't you start with studying the spread of disease. And consider that many diseases we do not have a vaccine for, have never had a vaccine for, have mysteriously DIED OUT. To save you time - how about you consider that when UNHEALTHY people die from a disease that doesn't usually kill people, then there MUST be a reason for it! Could it possibly be the weakened immune response of a person who indulges in bad diets and every single pharmaceutical ever offered to them. You consider that person healthy? Because the word "healthy" is very subjective! A baby who was given 38 vaccines before the age of two years, is not what I would consider healthy either!

You could learn by reading something NOT produced by the manufacturer of this vaccine!

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 29, 2009 1:52 AM

"Stop trying to scare people, or come up with some more substantial data to back up your WARNING."

You mean more substantial than the package insert? Have you read *anything* posted here??? Maybe you should.

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 29, 2009 1:58 AM

For gaining a little perspective -

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Dana
Posted by Dana
October 29, 2009 2:47 AM

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KMC
Posted by KMC
October 29, 2009 12:49 PM

Talk about a bunch of paranoid people! If you are so worried about vaccine failure, and every little ingedient in them, then I am guessing that you also stay locked up in your homes all day. I would be more worried about brake failure in my car, stop light failure at an intersection, germicide failure in your hand wash and organic tainting in your special fruits and veggies, and the very air your breathe when your air purifier fails. Get off your high horses and go find another worthy cause. People are starving....find ways to feed them!
You are living in fear and putting yourselves in far more riskier situations on a daily basis.
GO LIVE YOUR OWN LIFE......

Kristin L.
Posted by Kristin L.
October 29, 2009 1:00 PM

Hi Everyone,

This is an e-mail chain that has endured.

Clearly there is passion on all sides of the debate. Regardless of your own beliefs, I think we all can recognize and agree that we live in a country in which we can do a certain amount of our own research and make our own choices.

I encourage you do to do that research and make the best choice for you and your family. I did find a document about vaccine ingredients from either the FDA website or one of the makers of the vaccines, and it did mention Squalene. If I can find it again, I will provide the link.

In the meantime, let's remember to relax and treat our neighbors -- be they actual or cyber neighbors -- as we would like to be treated.

Be well.
Kristin

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 29, 2009 3:08 PM

Wow. It's no wonder the people of this country are getting dumber with every generation. It starts with people who don't read a thing, but still have opinions anyway...

Where does such a mentality come from??? Ignorance is bliss, is that it???

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 29, 2009 3:14 PM

It's almost as if people FIGHT education in this country..."oh please, please, please don't educate me, I don't wanna know..."

Get your heads out of the sand. Read the package insert. Learn what a package insert is! Then, if you want to vaccinate, then, go for it. How hard could it be? This blog was obviously intended to make people want to READ, because obviously, they do not. Some are too busy with their opinions, and attacking those they don't even know and will never meet...pathetic!

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 29, 2009 4:26 PM

"when there is evidence to the contrary that vaccines save lives. HELLO"

If you care to learn anything at all - that right there would be the place to start. Find some evidence to back-up that claim. You won't.

Prove that vaccines have saved lives. Show me one single study or reputable piece that proves this nonsense. (Please don't offer an opinion piece or an advertisement.)

Most of the diseases for which we have a vaccine are self-limiting diseases. Yes, that's right, self-limiting ---- not deadly.

History tells the truth and if you look at data compiled for many different areas, you will find that almost everywhere in the US, most of these vaccine-available diseases were of no threat by the time they released the vaccine for mainstream use. Because of recent environmental changes, the numbers of death by disease were declining. Now, thanks to the shedding of vaccines, those numbers are rising again, along with Autism and other neurological and autoimmune disorders.

And you know what they WON'T do? They won't study the diseases to find out which is more prevalent in society today. Take chickenpox for example, it's either the vaccine strain of the chickenpox --- or it's the actual wild (natural) strain of the chickenpox. Why won't they do these studies? Are they too busy trying to prove their product works and can't be bothered by proving that it's safe?

Can they be bothered to explain the rash of shingles cases among today's youth???

Teresa AllenInjuryBoard Contributor
Posted by Teresa Allen
October 29, 2009 6:14 PM

I am sorry that you feel that way, KMC, but I am not trying to 'scare' anyone.

I posted this blog in order to 'educate', not to scare. And if you would read what has been said here, you would see that I have only said to 'educate yourself before you vaccinate'.

I live my life and I do not lock myself in my home. The environmental issues that you brought up are things you can only do so much about. But vaccines are something that you can avoid if you choose to. The dangers of vaccines are REAL and every parent should know what is being injected into their children instead of just 'trusting' the doctors and the scientists.

These doctors and scientists are PAID by the pharmaceutical companies to push the vaccines. Most don't even read the inserts or even know what is IN the vaccines!

It is our job as parents to educate ourselves on these issues. How else can you make an informed decision?

This blog was not started to scare anyone. It was only to give the information and then whoever reads it can do what they like with it.

I suggest that if you dont want to find out the truth or that you disagree with this blog that you just move on to another one. It is totally up to you what you do with the information given.

SESmith
Posted by SESmith
October 29, 2009 6:54 PM

Wow, Dana, do you YELL A LOT IN PERSON ALL THE TIME??!?! This is not a site for education and sharing of opinions, as Teresa has stated, because you are on here beating everyone up! I am sure polio would have "self-limited" itself right out of existence - tell that to my friend who had it as a child and watched others her age suffer and even die from it before a vaccine was available!

You are a classic conspiracy-theorist! No matter where the data comes from to dispute what you are saying, it would be wrong because it wouldn't jive with what you are saying! Even according to your data, the risk of adverse reaction to a vaccine is still much lower than the dangers posed by swine flu, and the risk of death with the virus outweighs any minimal side effects of the vaccine!

My kids have been vaccinated! I will be too, as soon as it is available to me! (My overuse of exclamation points is a tribute to you, Dana, my overbearing-and-must-always-be-right cyber-friend!).

Thanks for the information, but I have had about enough of this site. Same crap, different day. Be well, hope everyone stays healthy, vaccine or no vaccine!

T.M.
Posted by T.M.
October 29, 2009 8:38 PM

I have been reading about the H1N1 shots and its ingredients, and I am so overwhelmed with my decision on whether to get my four year old vaccinated. If I do, the ingredients could cause trouble later, if I don't, H1N1 could possibly kill my son. GRRRRRRRR!!!!!

Teresa AllenInjuryBoard Contributor
Posted by Teresa Allen
October 29, 2009 9:21 PM

T.M., I know exactly how you feel!
It is a horrible position to have to be in. We never really know what is the 'right' thing or the 'safe' thing to do.

Since I have a vaccine injured daughter, it makes it even harder for me. I try to get all the information that I can gather, do all the research that I can possibly do, yet it is still a very difficult position to be put in.

I am not 'anti-vaccine'...I just want to be totally informed and know all the risks and benefits before making the decision. I just hesitate with this H1N1 vaccine because it was fast tracked and not enough testing or long-term evaluations have been done on it's safety.
But I do know that our bodies are designed with a wonderful immune system that, if we take the proper care of ourselves, it will work the way it was intended to work. And for the ones that have had the H1N1 virus and have gotten over it, they have a lifelong immunity from it, something vaccines cannot offer.

I've just seen too many vaccine injuries..so, for me, it's an easy choice to make. But I understand for the majority of people, it is not so easy.

Just get all the facts, not just from the CDC or the FDA because they are not the most trustworthy organizations.

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 29, 2009 10:09 PM

TM, your four year old may be healthy enough to get the H1N1 and be back to playing just a few days later. If he's had 38 vaccines before the age of 2, then he may not be so healthy after all.

Last spring, my family got the H1N1. My four yr old was the quickest to get over it. She is the only one in the family who has never had a single vaccine, so of course she would be the healthiest out of all of us.

Damaged immune systems are why young children are dying from complications from this disease. You can find plenty of scientific papers which tell you how harmful aluminum is, not to mention the other ingredients.

BTW, vaccines kill, it's called SIDS. So be aware, it's not just the disease you need to be afraid of. That is the main problem though - fear. The media is blowing this completely out of proportion. The H1N1 has killed in one year, the same amount of people as the regular flu kills in one week!

Jackie
Posted by Jackie
October 29, 2009 10:24 PM

Where exactly is the evidence that receiving vaccinations makes anyone LESS healthy overall? I cannot find any of the papers that you're referring to indicating that aluminum is harmful except in cases where there is prolonged and extensive exposure, way beyond the amounts included in any vaccines.

Dana
Posted by Dana
October 29, 2009 10:39 PM

SE Smith must be a liberal since instead of discussing the facts, he has to discuss Dana and her typing habits, and what this website is or or is not...it's a favorite among liberals I've noticed.

You have nothing to dispute my facts with so you claim I'm beating everyone up? Please, Grow up!

And wow, next comes the "classic" whine. When you have nothing to dispute the facts with, then you resort to name calling. Again - "classic". Call me whatever you choose but if you have any brains at all, then dispute the facts or I won't bother wasting my time with such ignorance and whiny name-calling. Stick to the facts, if you are capable. At least try!

OK, back to the facts now -